
Has anyone seen The V.I.P.s? Is it a good movie? It has a very starry cast: Taylor/Burton, Maggie Smith, Orson Welles, Margaret Rutherford, Louis Jordan. It's about a group of people in Heathrow Airport waiting for a flight to NYC.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 14, 2021 9:45 PM |
Boring, but not as boring as "Raintree County." Of course, no movie is as boring as "RC." Still pretty damned boring, though. Have I mentioned that it's boring?
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 14, 2021 2:20 PM |
Agree that it's quite tedious.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 14, 2021 2:21 PM |
I liked it, but I like Terrence Rattigan.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 14, 2021 2:22 PM |
Did Burton and Taylor ever make a decent film together after WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? Well, I guess THE TAMING OF THE SHREW was pretty good.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 14, 2021 2:23 PM |
LOVE Taming of the Shrew. Just watched it last night. So entertaining, and the characters are so engaging - love Grumio. First rate film all the way.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 14, 2021 2:30 PM |
All star cast including a small role for the inestimable Lady Prudence Fairfax.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 14, 2021 2:31 PM |
I thought it was tremendous!
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 14, 2021 2:39 PM |
How can anyone not love The VIPs? Based on an actual incident with Peter Finch and Vivian Leigh, plus Orson Welles playing himself and Margaret Rutherford stoned higher than Cheech and Chong.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 14, 2021 2:42 PM |
It’s definitely not a good movie. It’s interesting only because of its starriness and being a snapshot of its time, from the “jet set” phenomenon to prevailing gender roles. I have a thing for Rod Taylor in his prime, so that was a plus. If memory serves correctly, he played an Australian so it was a rare instance of hearing his native accent on film. Other curiosities include Orson Welles slumming it for a paycheck and an early Maggie Smith performance in the parallel role to Joan Crawford’s character in the obvious predecessor to this movie, “Grand Hotel.” The centerpiece storyline between Burton and Taylor is both boring and creepy because Burton’s character is obsessed with essentially owning Taylor’s character, a fur-draped non-entity who projects nothing that would make us understand Burton’s obsession.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 14, 2021 2:45 PM |
^^Thank -you, I couldn't remember what this was an updated remake of, but yes, "Grand Hotel". Like you said, if for no other reason it's a great snapshot of the "beautiful people" circa 1963. Especially with the world's most glamorous, scandalous couple, Burton and Taylor
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 14, 2021 2:52 PM |
Margaret Rutherford is a marvel. I love her talking about the daffodils at her ancestral home and the Shakespeare quote from “The Winter’s Tale:” “Daffodils, that come before the swallow dares, and take the winds of March with beauty.”
Also, amazing to have Dame Maggie still around, having survived her costars by decades. But overall a snoozer.
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 14, 2021 4:28 PM |
The theme music is beautiful.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 14, 2021 4:38 PM |
I was 12 when it was first released and loved it.
The gayling in me wore the hood on my winter jacket as if it were Elizabeth's white fur hood.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 14, 2021 4:41 PM |
The Burtons formed a friendship with David Frost, who played himself in the movie, that lasted for years.
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 14, 2021 4:42 PM |
I've been reading RIchard Burton's diaries and want to see this! I think I saw it on TCM decades ago when I didn't appreciate it. It must have a special status within the select canon of Anticlimactic Ensemble Films.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 14, 2021 4:47 PM |
BURTON LOOKED SEXY AS HELL in "the taming of the shrew" with his highlighted curly lighter hair, thick groomed beard and showing off his hairy chest! a nice tan and even his eyes twinkled! the best he EVER looked...
after "waovw".. the couple made bomb after bomb, and soon taylor's movie career as a huge box office draw came to a end at the end of the 60's early 70's..
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 14, 2021 4:49 PM |
It's lousy--rushed out before "Cleopatra" to capitalize on the Liz & Dick notoriety....The two of them made so many bad movies together, and only in "Virginia Woolf" did they have any real screen chemistry--the Great Lovers....they certainly didn't in "Cleopatra" either, for all the hoo-haw--he bellows and snorts, and she wears eye makeup.....
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 14, 2021 4:54 PM |
I know it gets trashed, but "Boom!" is a beautiful looking film.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 14, 2021 4:59 PM |
Rattigan and "Puffin" Asquith were A-List Homosexuals, so there is much gay involvement, if little gay interest.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 14, 2021 5:23 PM |
@r17, The only reason Taylor/Burton were so good in "Virginia Woolf" was because they were playing their drunken, bickering selves
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 14, 2021 5:23 PM |
This is one of the movies where Liz started looking fat.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 14, 2021 5:48 PM |
It’s a fabulous movie. Highly recommend! It how we used to fly. I remember the valets and service people knowing our names. The phone service in which the phone is brought to you, and plugged in. Oh the grand days of travel. Now flying is like a greyhound bus.
The cast list is incredible. So many greats in one movie. Maggie Smith and Rod Taylor are so young. Orson Wells, Margaret Rutherford, Louis Jordan, ....
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 14, 2021 5:53 PM |
[quote] Is it a good movie?
No, it's a low-effort, filmed quickie of 3 short Rattigan plays. It is uncinematic but in very good taste by those two masters of of good taste Asquith and Rattigan.
You should see it in conjunction with its sister production, Asquith and Rattigan's 'Yellow Rolls Royce' with has more stars and better production values.
Asquith and Rattigan's best production is that black and white masterpiece of good taste, subtle writing, discreet understatement and nascent Social Justice Warrior-ism with the intriguing battle-of-the-sexes with Robert Donat and the delicious Margaret Leighton.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 14, 2021 5:58 PM |
Vanity Fair devoted a whole piece on the making of "The V.I.P.s." Burton was conflicted about leaving Sybil and their kids, drank a lot, and fought constantly with La Grande Dame Elizabeth. Elizabeth was the same old spoiled, petty, melodramatic Elizabeth, only much more powerful than ever before.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 14, 2021 6:02 PM |
Although this was in 1963, it's very much in the category of those string of movies Liz and Richard did in the later 60's -- all talky and tedious. But at least, being in the early 60's, it's more visually appealing than those other later ones.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 14, 2021 6:04 PM |
There's a terrible new Netflix movie, "The Vanished", that takes the imaginary child strand from "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" and tries to build a thriller around it (the Nick and Honey characters get killed). Battling Anne Heche and Thomas Jane are no Liz and Dick. Jason Patric, as a cop, is still kind of cute, but big as a house.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 14, 2021 6:25 PM |
Grand Hotel style film with lots of name actors. Like Hotel (1968) which also starred Rod Taylor and Airport(1970) it's overly long with too many characters and subplots and is tedious as others have stated.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 14, 2021 6:30 PM |
I love the loopy movies Liz made in the sixties and early-70's. She would never choose some Douglas Sirk soap opera: send her witches, mental illness, ghosts and perversion!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 14, 2021 6:43 PM |
Yes, they may seem 'loopy' in retrospect, R28.
But 2 were chosen because of Dick's Shakespearean ambitions.
The Tennessee Williams and the George Stevens recalled her past glories from the 50s.
Two extremely loopy ones were directed by Joseph Losey who was the 'in-thing' briefly in the 60s.
One had the dreary cat-faced Helmut Berger.
One was an Italian film from a story by Muriel Spark (whom I consider to be an acid-tongued writer of genius but most of her stories are just too surreal and/or nihilistic for the big screen)
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 14, 2021 8:57 PM |
The funny thing about Who's....Virginia Woolf is: when Taylor was cast it was, of course, thought to be a ridiculous stunt. How could the most beautiful and elegant woman in the world, only in her mid-30s, play a blowsy, overweight, screeching harridan in her 50s? Little did we realize back then, it was perfect type-casting.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 14, 2021 9:45 PM |
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